The second picture is a screen snapshot when I was Interviewing PJ.
Again, let's take a look at the Transgender Lounge.
2010年6月22日星期二
some pictures taken while doing research on the our project
Below is the Transgender Lounge, where I met some transgender individuals and conducted the interview.
The second picture is a screen snapshot when I was Interviewing PJ.
Again, let's take a look at the Transgender Lounge.
The second picture is a screen snapshot when I was Interviewing PJ.
Again, let's take a look at the Transgender Lounge.
preperation on the topic, theme, and questions
[18:51] Mi Shinn: ruby and susie work together?
[18:51] Mi Shinn: or susie and ding?
[18:51] Aleli Damiano: 11. If you have been in a SL marriage/partnership, how long did it last? if there was more than one experience, which one lasted the most.
[18:51] Ding Atolia: you mean we four have to devide into two groups?
[18:52] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:52] Aleli Damiano: 12. Do you think that SL relationships needs the same sort of commitment like in RL?
[18:52] Mi Shinn: to go over all of the questions
[18:52] Meredith Rhosar: Do you think you can deal with both RL romance and SL romance well at the same time?
[18:52] Aleli Damiano: 13. Do you keep your relationships within the SL platform?
[18:52] Mi Shinn: the purpose is to see how these questions work
[18:52] Mi Shinn: to pracitce
[18:52] Meredith Rhosar: What is your intention to find a lover in SL?
[18:52] Judy Meiler: 3. Do people make their avatar more charming than they really are and fabricate the glorious event about them to increase the opportunities to have intimatr relationship immoral?
[18:53] Susie223 Chun: so Ding and I are in one group
[18:53] Aleli Damiano: 14. if you are marriage in RL, do you consider the relationships or sexual encounters in SL cheating on your RL partner?
[18:53] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:53] Ding Atolia: so now we can go to another place and discuss?
[18:53] Meredith Rhosar: uh...I think my questions are a bit too sharp...
[18:53] Mi Shinn: maybe we go over here
[18:53] Aleli Damiano: 15. would you consider SL relationships as a potential RL romantic encounter/partnership or even marriage?
[18:53] Object: Touched.
[18:53] Mi Shinn: hi
[18:54] Mi Shinn: ok
[18:54] Mi Shinn: susie you can ask first set of questions
[18:54] Mi Shinn: and ding you answer the questions
[18:55] Mi Shinn: you can try to imagine you are the target person
[18:55] Ding Atolia: ok...
[18:55] Susie223 Chun: so Ding will act as a transgender character?
[18:56] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:56] Ding Atolia: wow?!
[18:56] Mi Shinn: then you can change roles in the middle
[18:56] Susie223 Chun: hahaha,ok
[18:56] Mi Shinn: or the end of the first set of questions
[18:56] Jessie Passerine上线了。
[18:57] Susie223 Chun: I C
[18:57] Ding Atolia: so i should answer every specific question?
[18:57] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:57] Susie223 Chun: let's start ding
[18:57] Ding Atolia: or just go over them to see of they can work?
[18:57] Mi Shinn: try to figure out the problems of the questions
[18:57] Ding Atolia: I C
[18:58] Ding Atolia: let's start, susie
[18:58] Mi Shinn: hi
[18:58] Mi Shinn: jessie
[18:58] Jessie Passerine: a day full of trouble
[18:58] Jessie Passerine: ><]
[18:58] Mi Shinn: you can ruby team up to role play
[18:59] Jessie Passerine: ok
[18:59] Mi Shinn: one asks questions and the other answer questions to see how your questions work
[18:59] Susie223 Chun: Hi, Ding Atolia, I'm Susie from NCU in Taiwan. Do you have a little time for some questions?
[18:59] Ding Atolia: yes?
[18:59] Jessie Passerine: ok i'll find her
[18:59] Susie223 Chun: thanks
[18:59] Ding Atolia: you are welcome
[18:59] Ding Atolia: haha
[19:00] Susie223 Chun: Do you choose to be transgender out of fun or interest?
[19:00] Mi Shinn: is this good for the first question?
[19:00] Ding Atolia: maybe not
[19:00] Mi Shinn: haha
[19:00] Ding Atolia: I feel a little abrupt
[19:00] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:01] Mi Shinn: then which one might be better?
[19:01] Mi Shinn: susie?
[19:01] Mi Shinn: or ding?
[19:01] Susie223 Chun: em. I'm thinking about it
[19:01] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:01] Mi Shinn: stay put
[19:02] Ding Atolia: are you enjoying yourself here?
[19:02] Mi Shinn: I will go find jessie and ruby
[19:02] Mi Shinn: they can come over here
[19:02] Ding Atolia: to lead the interviewee to the transgender issue
[19:02] Mi Shinn: jessie
[19:02] Susie223 Chun: maybe ask about the daily life?
[19:02] Mi Shinn: youcan come over here to ding
[19:03] Susie223 Chun: ask about his or her daily activity
[19:03] Mi Shinn: Jessie
[19:03] Ding Atolia: we can bring the second subtopic up
[19:03] Mi Shinn: please follow me
[19:03] Ding Atolia: to ask the 2nd subtopic first
[19:04] Mi Shinn: let's get together with ding
[19:04] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:04] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:04] Mi Shinn: you can keep going
[19:04] Susie223 Chun: the we can bring it to the transgender issue
[19:05] Ding Atolia: yes. maybe start with are you enjoying yourself here and what fun do you get so far.
[19:05] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:05] Ding Atolia: so Susie, you can ask
[19:06] Susie223 Chun: so are you enjoying yourself here?
[19:06] Mi Shinn: insl?
[19:06] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:06] Mi Shinn: where is here?
[19:06] Ding Atolia: maybe narrow the place to a transgender club
[19:06] Mi Shinn: is it the place that you are doing the interview?
[19:07] Ding Atolia: yes, we will go there
[19:07] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:07] Mi Shinn: so try again susie
[19:07] Susie223 Chun: so are you enjoying yourself in the transgerder club?
[19:08] Mi Shinn: ding?
[19:08] Ding Atolia: yes, i am enjoying myself, that's why i am here.
[19:08] Mi Shinn: susie?
[19:08] Mi Shinn: kkep going
[19:09] Susie223 Chun: can you make me some examples about what fun did you get so far?
[19:10] Ding Atolia: for example, i can wear any clothes i like
[19:10] Ding Atolia: i can...
[19:11] Susie223 Chun: ok, then what do you usually do in the club?
[19:11] Jessie Passerine: shoul we start asking each other questions, ruby?
[19:11] Ding Atolia: we will attend parties together
[19:12] Susie223 Chun: yes?
[19:12] Ding Atolia: we introduce to each other our friends
[19:12] Susie223 Chun: sounds good
[19:12] Jessie Passerine: 1. Are you a transgender in real life? If yes, what kind of transgender?
[19:12] Susie223 Chun: Apart from the activities here, do you take part in other activities with people who are not transgender?
[19:13] Ding Atolia: yes, sometimes
[19:13] Ding Atolia: and we had fun
[19:13] Susie223 Chun: like what?
[19:13] Jessie Passerine: so what kind of transgender?
[19:13] Jessie Passerine: CD? TC? OR?
[19:14] Ding Atolia: like go singing or drinking
[19:14] Ding Atolia: things like that
[19:14] Susie223 Chun: I see
[19:14] Mi Shinn: is there something special about these activities?
[19:14] Mi Shinn: drinking and singing
[19:15] Ding Atolia: because i am not a transgender, so i cannot think of those sepcial activities
[19:15] Mi Shinn: you may wish to explore deeper into the answers
[19:15] Mi Shinn: because if you don't
[19:15] Ding Atolia: but i think in real interview, these questions are workable
[19:15] Mi Shinn: then your report will be dull and boring
[19:15] Ding Atolia: ok, so we can dig further
[19:16] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:16] Mi Shinn: keep up with your good work here
[19:16] Susie223 Chun: ok
[19:16] Jessie Passerine: do you like to wear males' outfit?
[19:16] Mi Shinn: these warm-up or ice-braking questions look good
[19:16] Mi Shinn: breaking
[19:17] Mi Shinn: kkep going
[19:17] Susie223 Chun: Are you led by others to come here or by yourself?
[19:17] Object: Touched.
[19:17] Ding Atolia: actually, i was told by a friend that i can have fun here
[19:17] Ding Atolia: so i come here
[19:17] Ding Atolia: and we really have fun.
[19:18] Mi Shinn: keep running your questions
[19:18] Jessie Passerine: in real life , do you find yourself different from the "normal"people? that is to say, do you have some interests or habits that others don't have?
[19:18] Susie223 Chun: so are you a transgender in real life?
[19:18] Mi Shinn: I will look around and see how other groups are doing
[19:19] Ding Atolia: no, i am not
[19:19] Mi Shinn: how's your role-playing?
[19:19] Mi Shinn: ruby
[19:19] Ding Atolia: i am here out of fun
[19:19] Susie223 Chun: then why do you choose to be transgender in SL?
[19:19] Susie223 Chun: out of fun or interest?
[19:19] Mi Shinn: both of you can run those questions together
[19:20] Susie223 Chun: ok
[19:20] Ding Atolia: I think it is fun
[19:20] Mi Shinn: then you can get a sense of it before you go to interview people
[19:20] Ding Atolia: and i'd like to meet people out of interest
[19:20] Susie223 Chun: i see
[19:20] Mi Shinn: did you start yoour questions?
[19:20] Susie223 Chun: What do you think about the present transgender situations in SL?
[19:20] Mi Shinn: Jessie?
[19:20] Mi Shinn: Ruby?
[19:20] Jessie Passerine: here~
[19:20] Ding Atolia: in SL, the environment is really great
[19:21] Mi Shinn: you need to role play and try to find out how those questions work
[19:21] Ding Atolia: much more freedom i think'
[19:21] Jessie Passerine: yes that is what we were doing
[19:21] Mi Shinn: what you might want to ajust
[19:22] Ding Atolia: and much more activities are conducted, and they actually many people
[19:22] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:22] Mi Shinn: imagine that you are
[19:22] Susie223 Chun: that's true
[19:22] Mi Shinn: one can play the role of TG and the other the interviewer
[19:22] Susie223 Chun: and what do you think about the present transgender situations in RL?
[19:22] Jessie Passerine: maybe the quetions would be better justified if we ask TG in sl
[19:23] Mi Shinn: then you can change roles in the middle or at the end of the first set of questions
[19:23] Ding Atolia: well, even though we claim that we have broad minds today,
[19:23] Mi Shinn: just try to explore what answers you might have
[19:23] Susie223 Chun: yes?
[19:23] Ding Atolia: i don't think people in RL have already accept transgender
[19:23] Mi Shinn: and how to dig deeper into the issues/questions
[19:23] Ding Atolia: there are all kinds of discrimination existing
[19:24] Mi Shinn: sometimes you need to know when to ask further questions to enrich your report and information
[19:24] Ding Atolia: like they will be seen or talked as monsters
[19:24] Ding Atolia: abnormal
[19:24] Susie223 Chun: you mean as a transgender, it's easier for them to got more fun in SL
[19:24] Ding Atolia: yes, right
[19:25] Jessie Passerine: I think we need to know the response of the tg instead of just imaging
[19:25] Mi Shinn: yes
[19:25] Mi Shinn: sure
[19:25] Susie223 Chun: did you meet any difficultiy in SL
[19:25] Susie223 Chun: about your gender?
[19:25] Ding Atolia: in SL?
[19:25] Ding Atolia: well, let me think
[19:25] Mi Shinn: yes
[19:26] Ding Atolia: most time i had fun here
[19:26] Mi Shinn: but some students just failed bacause of no training and preparation
[19:26] Ding Atolia: but there's some time
[19:26] Jessie Passerine: so after the role play , the questions would be justified again if we ask the tg?
[19:26] Mi Shinn: but if you feel confident
[19:26] Mi Shinn: then go ahead
[19:27] Mi Shinn: it all depend on you
[19:27] Jessie Passerine: okay
[19:27] Mi Shinn: depends*
[19:27] Ding Atolia: i will feel arkward if i am around by many people
[19:27] Susie223 Chun: yes?
[19:27] Ding Atolia: but mostly they are out of courisity to ask me why i choose to be like this
[19:27] Mi Shinn: like I just mentioned last week
[19:27] Mi Shinn: some people don't care
[19:28] Mi Shinn: other people might think it is rude
[19:28] Ding Atolia: generally, i think in SL the situation is fine
[19:28] Susie223 Chun: then what’s your reaction towards those embarrassments?
[19:28] Ding Atolia: i will be myself
[19:28] Mi Shinn: it depends on who you meet
[19:28] Ding Atolia: enjoy myself
[19:28] Susie223 Chun: you mean ignore them?
[19:28] Ding Atolia: becasue we all know that it is a virtual world
[19:29] Mi Shinn: jessie
[19:29] Jessie Passerine: yes?
[19:29] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:29] Ding Atolia: as long as i have fun here, i don't care much
[19:29] Mi Shinn: you can go with Ruby or join susie and ding
[19:29] Ding Atolia: about those troubling things
[19:29] Jessie Passerine: i got it
[19:29] Mi Shinn: just remember to keep the transcript and write down your progress report
[19:30] Jessie Passerine: okay
[19:30] Mi Shinn: next week we will meet in the classroom
[19:30] Susie223 Chun: does your virtual role influnce your real life in a sense?
[19:30] Jessie Passerine: ic
[19:30] Mi Shinn: and your group needs to come up with a draft for yoru final project
[19:31] Ding Atolia: well
[19:31] Jessie Passerine: what should the draft be like?
[19:31] Mi Shinn: then the 17week is off because of a holiday
[19:31] Ding Atolia: i enjoy being transgender in RL
[19:31] Mi Shinn: in the 18th week all of you need to submit a poster in sl
[19:31] Susie223 Chun: I see,thanks for your timeXD
[19:31] Mi Shinn: any other question, ruby?
[19:32] Ding Atolia: sorry, i made a mistake
[19:32] Mi Shinn: just send me a transcript
[19:32] Mi Shinn: if you want to go interview people now
[19:32] Jessie Passerine: I'm wondering that , too
[19:32] Ding Atolia: i mean i enjoy being transgender in SL, but i enjoy being myself in RL
[19:32] Susie223 Chun: ok
[19:32] Ding Atolia: ok, i think that's all
[19:32] Mi Shinn: you can see example from previous students posters
[19:32] Mi Shinn: up there in the air
[19:32] Mi Shinn: do you see them?
[19:33] Charlotte Mohegan: oh ic
[19:33] Charlotte Mohegan: phoebe?
[19:34] Ruby Lysios: no~
[19:34] Mi Shinn: no
[19:34] Mi Shinn: then go ahead
[19:34] Susie223 Chun: where is it
[19:34] Ruby Lysios: i just went to the toiletXD
[19:34] Ruby Lysios: ok!
[19:34] Mi Shinn: the posters?
[19:34] Mi Shinn: up there
[19:34] Mi Shinn: follow me
[19:34] Jessie Passerine: ok~
[20:01] Mi Shinn: so just remember to post your progress report in your personal blogs
[20:01] Jessie Passerine: me too
[20:01] Mi Shinn: and conduct your interviews
[20:01] Phoebe Isenia: one is the personal questions which may have differdnt answers
[20:01] Jessie Passerine: ok~
[20:01] Ding Atolia: by when?
[20:01] Mi Shinn: next week in class show us the poster as you saw
[20:01] Susie223 Chun: ok
[20:02] Phoebe Isenia: and the other one is basic questions related to the knowledge of vampire in sl
[20:02] Mi Shinn: I showed previous students poster to you just now
[20:02] Mi Shinn: your group is done
[20:02] Phoebe Isenia: and this part we won't interview with different vampires
[20:02] Ding Atolia: but ext time we meet in class
[20:02] Mi Shinn: just finish it and come to class next week
[20:02] Ding Atolia: next
[20:02] Ding Atolia: ok
[20:02] Mi Shinn: with your drafts
[20:02] Judy Meiler: Hello, Emma!
[20:03] Mi Shinn: Judy is your group done?
[20:03] Ding Atolia: ok, so we can go to interview now
[20:03] Aleli Damiano: we have a couple of questions we would like to ask
[20:03] Mi Shinn: ok
[20:03] Aleli Damiano: refereng the questions we are working on it...
[20:03] Object: Touched.
[20:03] Mi Shinn: ok
[20:04] Aleli Damiano: I suggested that when we are interviewing ppl we should direct the questions to them in particular
[20:04] Judy Meiler: Emma, can I send you the question in Word?
[20:04] Mi Shinn: ok
[20:04] Mi Shinn: you can just post them in note
[20:04] Mi Shinn: and give it to me now
[20:04] Aleli Damiano: but my group members suggested it may be offensive, specially some particular questions
[20:04] Mi Shinn: inventory-->create--> create a note
[20:04] Glenna Lane上线了。
[18:51] Mi Shinn: or susie and ding?
[18:51] Aleli Damiano: 11. If you have been in a SL marriage/partnership, how long did it last? if there was more than one experience, which one lasted the most.
[18:51] Ding Atolia: you mean we four have to devide into two groups?
[18:52] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:52] Aleli Damiano: 12. Do you think that SL relationships needs the same sort of commitment like in RL?
[18:52] Mi Shinn: to go over all of the questions
[18:52] Meredith Rhosar: Do you think you can deal with both RL romance and SL romance well at the same time?
[18:52] Aleli Damiano: 13. Do you keep your relationships within the SL platform?
[18:52] Mi Shinn: the purpose is to see how these questions work
[18:52] Mi Shinn: to pracitce
[18:52] Meredith Rhosar: What is your intention to find a lover in SL?
[18:52] Judy Meiler: 3. Do people make their avatar more charming than they really are and fabricate the glorious event about them to increase the opportunities to have intimatr relationship immoral?
[18:53] Susie223 Chun: so Ding and I are in one group
[18:53] Aleli Damiano: 14. if you are marriage in RL, do you consider the relationships or sexual encounters in SL cheating on your RL partner?
[18:53] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:53] Ding Atolia: so now we can go to another place and discuss?
[18:53] Meredith Rhosar: uh...I think my questions are a bit too sharp...
[18:53] Mi Shinn: maybe we go over here
[18:53] Aleli Damiano: 15. would you consider SL relationships as a potential RL romantic encounter/partnership or even marriage?
[18:53] Object: Touched.
[18:53] Mi Shinn: hi
[18:54] Mi Shinn: ok
[18:54] Mi Shinn: susie you can ask first set of questions
[18:54] Mi Shinn: and ding you answer the questions
[18:55] Mi Shinn: you can try to imagine you are the target person
[18:55] Ding Atolia: ok...
[18:55] Susie223 Chun: so Ding will act as a transgender character?
[18:56] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:56] Ding Atolia: wow?!
[18:56] Mi Shinn: then you can change roles in the middle
[18:56] Susie223 Chun: hahaha,ok
[18:56] Mi Shinn: or the end of the first set of questions
[18:56] Jessie Passerine上线了。
[18:57] Susie223 Chun: I C
[18:57] Ding Atolia: so i should answer every specific question?
[18:57] Mi Shinn: yes
[18:57] Susie223 Chun: let's start ding
[18:57] Ding Atolia: or just go over them to see of they can work?
[18:57] Mi Shinn: try to figure out the problems of the questions
[18:57] Ding Atolia: I C
[18:58] Ding Atolia: let's start, susie
[18:58] Mi Shinn: hi
[18:58] Mi Shinn: jessie
[18:58] Jessie Passerine: a day full of trouble
[18:58] Jessie Passerine: ><]
[18:58] Mi Shinn: you can ruby team up to role play
[18:59] Jessie Passerine: ok
[18:59] Mi Shinn: one asks questions and the other answer questions to see how your questions work
[18:59] Susie223 Chun: Hi, Ding Atolia, I'm Susie from NCU in Taiwan. Do you have a little time for some questions?
[18:59] Ding Atolia: yes?
[18:59] Jessie Passerine: ok i'll find her
[18:59] Susie223 Chun: thanks
[18:59] Ding Atolia: you are welcome
[18:59] Ding Atolia: haha
[19:00] Susie223 Chun: Do you choose to be transgender out of fun or interest?
[19:00] Mi Shinn: is this good for the first question?
[19:00] Ding Atolia: maybe not
[19:00] Mi Shinn: haha
[19:00] Ding Atolia: I feel a little abrupt
[19:00] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:01] Mi Shinn: then which one might be better?
[19:01] Mi Shinn: susie?
[19:01] Mi Shinn: or ding?
[19:01] Susie223 Chun: em. I'm thinking about it
[19:01] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:01] Mi Shinn: stay put
[19:02] Ding Atolia: are you enjoying yourself here?
[19:02] Mi Shinn: I will go find jessie and ruby
[19:02] Mi Shinn: they can come over here
[19:02] Ding Atolia: to lead the interviewee to the transgender issue
[19:02] Mi Shinn: jessie
[19:02] Susie223 Chun: maybe ask about the daily life?
[19:02] Mi Shinn: youcan come over here to ding
[19:03] Susie223 Chun: ask about his or her daily activity
[19:03] Mi Shinn: Jessie
[19:03] Ding Atolia: we can bring the second subtopic up
[19:03] Mi Shinn: please follow me
[19:03] Ding Atolia: to ask the 2nd subtopic first
[19:04] Mi Shinn: let's get together with ding
[19:04] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:04] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:04] Mi Shinn: you can keep going
[19:04] Susie223 Chun: the we can bring it to the transgender issue
[19:05] Ding Atolia: yes. maybe start with are you enjoying yourself here and what fun do you get so far.
[19:05] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:05] Ding Atolia: so Susie, you can ask
[19:06] Susie223 Chun: so are you enjoying yourself here?
[19:06] Mi Shinn: insl?
[19:06] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:06] Mi Shinn: where is here?
[19:06] Ding Atolia: maybe narrow the place to a transgender club
[19:06] Mi Shinn: is it the place that you are doing the interview?
[19:07] Ding Atolia: yes, we will go there
[19:07] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:07] Mi Shinn: so try again susie
[19:07] Susie223 Chun: so are you enjoying yourself in the transgerder club?
[19:08] Mi Shinn: ding?
[19:08] Ding Atolia: yes, i am enjoying myself, that's why i am here.
[19:08] Mi Shinn: susie?
[19:08] Mi Shinn: kkep going
[19:09] Susie223 Chun: can you make me some examples about what fun did you get so far?
[19:10] Ding Atolia: for example, i can wear any clothes i like
[19:10] Ding Atolia: i can...
[19:11] Susie223 Chun: ok, then what do you usually do in the club?
[19:11] Jessie Passerine: shoul we start asking each other questions, ruby?
[19:11] Ding Atolia: we will attend parties together
[19:12] Susie223 Chun: yes?
[19:12] Ding Atolia: we introduce to each other our friends
[19:12] Susie223 Chun: sounds good
[19:12] Jessie Passerine: 1. Are you a transgender in real life? If yes, what kind of transgender?
[19:12] Susie223 Chun: Apart from the activities here, do you take part in other activities with people who are not transgender?
[19:13] Ding Atolia: yes, sometimes
[19:13] Ding Atolia: and we had fun
[19:13] Susie223 Chun: like what?
[19:13] Jessie Passerine: so what kind of transgender?
[19:13] Jessie Passerine: CD? TC? OR?
[19:14] Ding Atolia: like go singing or drinking
[19:14] Ding Atolia: things like that
[19:14] Susie223 Chun: I see
[19:14] Mi Shinn: is there something special about these activities?
[19:14] Mi Shinn: drinking and singing
[19:15] Ding Atolia: because i am not a transgender, so i cannot think of those sepcial activities
[19:15] Mi Shinn: you may wish to explore deeper into the answers
[19:15] Mi Shinn: because if you don't
[19:15] Ding Atolia: but i think in real interview, these questions are workable
[19:15] Mi Shinn: then your report will be dull and boring
[19:15] Ding Atolia: ok, so we can dig further
[19:16] Mi Shinn: ok
[19:16] Mi Shinn: keep up with your good work here
[19:16] Susie223 Chun: ok
[19:16] Jessie Passerine: do you like to wear males' outfit?
[19:16] Mi Shinn: these warm-up or ice-braking questions look good
[19:16] Mi Shinn: breaking
[19:17] Mi Shinn: kkep going
[19:17] Susie223 Chun: Are you led by others to come here or by yourself?
[19:17] Object: Touched.
[19:17] Ding Atolia: actually, i was told by a friend that i can have fun here
[19:17] Ding Atolia: so i come here
[19:17] Ding Atolia: and we really have fun.
[19:18] Mi Shinn: keep running your questions
[19:18] Jessie Passerine: in real life , do you find yourself different from the "normal"people? that is to say, do you have some interests or habits that others don't have?
[19:18] Susie223 Chun: so are you a transgender in real life?
[19:18] Mi Shinn: I will look around and see how other groups are doing
[19:19] Ding Atolia: no, i am not
[19:19] Mi Shinn: how's your role-playing?
[19:19] Mi Shinn: ruby
[19:19] Ding Atolia: i am here out of fun
[19:19] Susie223 Chun: then why do you choose to be transgender in SL?
[19:19] Susie223 Chun: out of fun or interest?
[19:19] Mi Shinn: both of you can run those questions together
[19:20] Susie223 Chun: ok
[19:20] Ding Atolia: I think it is fun
[19:20] Mi Shinn: then you can get a sense of it before you go to interview people
[19:20] Ding Atolia: and i'd like to meet people out of interest
[19:20] Susie223 Chun: i see
[19:20] Mi Shinn: did you start yoour questions?
[19:20] Susie223 Chun: What do you think about the present transgender situations in SL?
[19:20] Mi Shinn: Jessie?
[19:20] Mi Shinn: Ruby?
[19:20] Jessie Passerine: here~
[19:20] Ding Atolia: in SL, the environment is really great
[19:21] Mi Shinn: you need to role play and try to find out how those questions work
[19:21] Ding Atolia: much more freedom i think'
[19:21] Jessie Passerine: yes that is what we were doing
[19:21] Mi Shinn: what you might want to ajust
[19:22] Ding Atolia: and much more activities are conducted, and they actually many people
[19:22] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:22] Mi Shinn: imagine that you are
[19:22] Susie223 Chun: that's true
[19:22] Mi Shinn: one can play the role of TG and the other the interviewer
[19:22] Susie223 Chun: and what do you think about the present transgender situations in RL?
[19:22] Jessie Passerine: maybe the quetions would be better justified if we ask TG in sl
[19:23] Mi Shinn: then you can change roles in the middle or at the end of the first set of questions
[19:23] Ding Atolia: well, even though we claim that we have broad minds today,
[19:23] Mi Shinn: just try to explore what answers you might have
[19:23] Susie223 Chun: yes?
[19:23] Ding Atolia: i don't think people in RL have already accept transgender
[19:23] Mi Shinn: and how to dig deeper into the issues/questions
[19:23] Ding Atolia: there are all kinds of discrimination existing
[19:24] Mi Shinn: sometimes you need to know when to ask further questions to enrich your report and information
[19:24] Ding Atolia: like they will be seen or talked as monsters
[19:24] Ding Atolia: abnormal
[19:24] Susie223 Chun: you mean as a transgender, it's easier for them to got more fun in SL
[19:24] Ding Atolia: yes, right
[19:25] Jessie Passerine: I think we need to know the response of the tg instead of just imaging
[19:25] Mi Shinn: yes
[19:25] Mi Shinn: sure
[19:25] Susie223 Chun: did you meet any difficultiy in SL
[19:25] Susie223 Chun: about your gender?
[19:25] Ding Atolia: in SL?
[19:25] Ding Atolia: well, let me think
[19:25] Mi Shinn: yes
[19:26] Ding Atolia: most time i had fun here
[19:26] Mi Shinn: but some students just failed bacause of no training and preparation
[19:26] Ding Atolia: but there's some time
[19:26] Jessie Passerine: so after the role play , the questions would be justified again if we ask the tg?
[19:26] Mi Shinn: but if you feel confident
[19:26] Mi Shinn: then go ahead
[19:27] Mi Shinn: it all depend on you
[19:27] Jessie Passerine: okay
[19:27] Mi Shinn: depends*
[19:27] Ding Atolia: i will feel arkward if i am around by many people
[19:27] Susie223 Chun: yes?
[19:27] Ding Atolia: but mostly they are out of courisity to ask me why i choose to be like this
[19:27] Mi Shinn: like I just mentioned last week
[19:27] Mi Shinn: some people don't care
[19:28] Mi Shinn: other people might think it is rude
[19:28] Ding Atolia: generally, i think in SL the situation is fine
[19:28] Susie223 Chun: then what’s your reaction towards those embarrassments?
[19:28] Ding Atolia: i will be myself
[19:28] Mi Shinn: it depends on who you meet
[19:28] Ding Atolia: enjoy myself
[19:28] Susie223 Chun: you mean ignore them?
[19:28] Ding Atolia: becasue we all know that it is a virtual world
[19:29] Mi Shinn: jessie
[19:29] Jessie Passerine: yes?
[19:29] Susie223 Chun: yes
[19:29] Ding Atolia: as long as i have fun here, i don't care much
[19:29] Mi Shinn: you can go with Ruby or join susie and ding
[19:29] Ding Atolia: about those troubling things
[19:29] Jessie Passerine: i got it
[19:29] Mi Shinn: just remember to keep the transcript and write down your progress report
[19:30] Jessie Passerine: okay
[19:30] Mi Shinn: next week we will meet in the classroom
[19:30] Susie223 Chun: does your virtual role influnce your real life in a sense?
[19:30] Jessie Passerine: ic
[19:30] Mi Shinn: and your group needs to come up with a draft for yoru final project
[19:31] Ding Atolia: well
[19:31] Jessie Passerine: what should the draft be like?
[19:31] Mi Shinn: then the 17week is off because of a holiday
[19:31] Ding Atolia: i enjoy being transgender in RL
[19:31] Mi Shinn: in the 18th week all of you need to submit a poster in sl
[19:31] Susie223 Chun: I see,thanks for your timeXD
[19:31] Mi Shinn: any other question, ruby?
[19:32] Ding Atolia: sorry, i made a mistake
[19:32] Mi Shinn: just send me a transcript
[19:32] Mi Shinn: if you want to go interview people now
[19:32] Jessie Passerine: I'm wondering that , too
[19:32] Ding Atolia: i mean i enjoy being transgender in SL, but i enjoy being myself in RL
[19:32] Susie223 Chun: ok
[19:32] Ding Atolia: ok, i think that's all
[19:32] Mi Shinn: you can see example from previous students posters
[19:32] Mi Shinn: up there in the air
[19:32] Mi Shinn: do you see them?
[19:33] Charlotte Mohegan: oh ic
[19:33] Charlotte Mohegan: phoebe?
[19:34] Ruby Lysios: no~
[19:34] Mi Shinn: no
[19:34] Mi Shinn: then go ahead
[19:34] Susie223 Chun: where is it
[19:34] Ruby Lysios: i just went to the toiletXD
[19:34] Ruby Lysios: ok!
[19:34] Mi Shinn: the posters?
[19:34] Mi Shinn: up there
[19:34] Mi Shinn: follow me
[19:34] Jessie Passerine: ok~
[20:01] Mi Shinn: so just remember to post your progress report in your personal blogs
[20:01] Jessie Passerine: me too
[20:01] Mi Shinn: and conduct your interviews
[20:01] Phoebe Isenia: one is the personal questions which may have differdnt answers
[20:01] Jessie Passerine: ok~
[20:01] Ding Atolia: by when?
[20:01] Mi Shinn: next week in class show us the poster as you saw
[20:01] Susie223 Chun: ok
[20:02] Phoebe Isenia: and the other one is basic questions related to the knowledge of vampire in sl
[20:02] Mi Shinn: I showed previous students poster to you just now
[20:02] Mi Shinn: your group is done
[20:02] Phoebe Isenia: and this part we won't interview with different vampires
[20:02] Ding Atolia: but ext time we meet in class
[20:02] Mi Shinn: just finish it and come to class next week
[20:02] Ding Atolia: next
[20:02] Ding Atolia: ok
[20:02] Mi Shinn: with your drafts
[20:02] Judy Meiler: Hello, Emma!
[20:03] Mi Shinn: Judy is your group done?
[20:03] Ding Atolia: ok, so we can go to interview now
[20:03] Aleli Damiano: we have a couple of questions we would like to ask
[20:03] Mi Shinn: ok
[20:03] Aleli Damiano: refereng the questions we are working on it...
[20:03] Object: Touched.
[20:03] Mi Shinn: ok
[20:04] Aleli Damiano: I suggested that when we are interviewing ppl we should direct the questions to them in particular
[20:04] Judy Meiler: Emma, can I send you the question in Word?
[20:04] Mi Shinn: ok
[20:04] Mi Shinn: you can just post them in note
[20:04] Mi Shinn: and give it to me now
[20:04] Aleli Damiano: but my group members suggested it may be offensive, specially some particular questions
[20:04] Mi Shinn: inventory-->create--> create a note
[20:04] Glenna Lane上线了。
progress report 3- Report writing Editing, and Revising
This week, with all the information we collected, we started on the preperation of project presentation.The presentation is divided into these parts: Introduction of our project(Ruby),Methodology of our project(Jessie),Individual Interviews(Ruby, Susie, Sonny, Jessie), and conclusion(Ruby, Susie, Sonny, Jessie).
And I summerized my part of work as follows:
Methodology:
We adoptted the method of individual interviews.According to previous knowledge on trangender groups, we know that there are all types of TG groups: transexual,crossdresser,transvestite and so on. We suppose that different types of people have different use on secondlife, and went on individual interviews to see how do they use secondlife,what are their daily activities, how do they see secondlife. on the issue of transgender atomosphere: whether secondlife has provided a more open envioronment for them, whether secondlife is a paradise for tansgender groups?
We have four members in our group, each of us interviewed several different transgender individuals in secondlife.The places we go to are mainly dance bars, transgender clubs and organizations.There we met different people with different backgrounds and personal experiences.Before going on the interview, we have had an assumption on the subject and a set of questions.In their answers, we found their opinion goes very much to what was assumpted.In the following part, each of us will carry out some of our interviews and finally reach the conclusion.
Jessie’s part:
In my case, I interviewed two crossdressers,which means the people who like to wear the clothes of the other sex., and two transexual individuals, which means people who usually describe themsevles as put into the wrong body by god and have most quality of the other sex. These interviwees are all biologically male.
Here comes the first part, crossdressers.
Bobby Blackcinder is a crossdressing male in RL, a female in SL. He is married and love women's clothes, especially, he wears women’s underdress everyday.He said that I’m afraid of being found of wearing women's underdress, because it would be hard to work.”But they can’t fire me. I’m a boss,”he said. Bobby have some fun with other people in SL, but not many CDs that aren't Transgender.He spend a lot of time in SL everyday. In SL,he dress just as he likes and explore the feminine side that he didn't realize I had much of.
Here are some of his quotations: I see myself as both a male and a female. I've had many years of presenting male, but realize I have many females traits not that I'm in SL
I wanted to use a male body in SL, and dress it in woman's clothes.
In SL ,lots of pretenses dropped.,like being macho and dominate attitudes, although I don't think that was a major part of my presence.
Jaiden LeShelle is a bisexual male in rl and cross dresses secretly, in second life, his avatar is a sexy female. He mentioned his experience of being seen dressed in female panty. We pretended it was a dare but I am pretty sure we both new. it was awkward for sure, but neither one of us did anything to suppress it.
As for the way of using sl, here comes some of his quotations.Just a way to act out, and share. Not to meet though probobly more with dynamics than anything though. I have rarely come across anyone close to me in a regional sense mostly just looking for new friends and keeping up to date with current ones
He sees sl life as a place more open on the issue of gender, here he can be more free to be himself instead of hiding from others’ sight. Here he can talk about his interest freely and can try all kinds of girls’ outfit as he wishes, which was difficult in rl, and as Jaiden said, it is what makes sl such a good fantasy.
Here comes the transexual individuals.
Alexis has got a male body in real life, but he does not see himself as a male but a female.When I asked Alexis this question that do you act like a girl, this individual is a little annoyyed and replyed me” I’m a girl but you say that I act like a girl.” In realife, few people know that Alexis has got a male body. She wears the outfit of feamle, and behaves in the female way.The avatar of Alexis is a beautiful female,and sl is used to meet new people,have some recreation like going to dance bars.Alexis mentioned that she is very careful in realife in order not to be found out, because in her country transgender groups are treated very badly.Although Alexis feel much more free in sl, she still mind her words, in case her identity in realife would be found out.
PiJee Spitteler is bilogically male and is bisexual.In sl,his avartar is a she-male,”a girl with a dick”.IN rl, he dresses like a boy, and sometimes he wear panties if he’s all alone at home to feel girly.
PiJee said that he is more like a girl than a boy, and his friends say so,too.When it comes to who to date, he doesn’t quite care about sex or gender.
About surgery, here’s his quotation.the first thing in mind would be to dress as a girl and look like one for a couple of times, if I like it, and if I really feel that I'm blossoming, then I might decide to have surgery.
in using sl, here comes some quotations from pijee. most of the time I wander around Domming people, mostly girls, or shemales, and other than that, I'd like to shop.
He sees sl a place much more open and free on gender. He said that well the one thing I experience her in SL is that people don't seem to care whether I'm a boy in RL or girl. They treat me as a girl. And friendships are well hard sometimes if they figure out the true gender.They would dissolve friendship pretty much.. but they're in the minority.
Here’s another quotation from PJ.I'm a boygirl remember? but I wouldn't care really, I am who I am.
And I summerized my part of work as follows:
Methodology:
We adoptted the method of individual interviews.According to previous knowledge on trangender groups, we know that there are all types of TG groups: transexual,crossdresser,transvestite and so on. We suppose that different types of people have different use on secondlife, and went on individual interviews to see how do they use secondlife,what are their daily activities, how do they see secondlife. on the issue of transgender atomosphere: whether secondlife has provided a more open envioronment for them, whether secondlife is a paradise for tansgender groups?
We have four members in our group, each of us interviewed several different transgender individuals in secondlife.The places we go to are mainly dance bars, transgender clubs and organizations.There we met different people with different backgrounds and personal experiences.Before going on the interview, we have had an assumption on the subject and a set of questions.In their answers, we found their opinion goes very much to what was assumpted.In the following part, each of us will carry out some of our interviews and finally reach the conclusion.
Jessie’s part:
In my case, I interviewed two crossdressers,which means the people who like to wear the clothes of the other sex., and two transexual individuals, which means people who usually describe themsevles as put into the wrong body by god and have most quality of the other sex. These interviwees are all biologically male.
Here comes the first part, crossdressers.
Bobby Blackcinder is a crossdressing male in RL, a female in SL. He is married and love women's clothes, especially, he wears women’s underdress everyday.He said that I’m afraid of being found of wearing women's underdress, because it would be hard to work.”But they can’t fire me. I’m a boss,”he said. Bobby have some fun with other people in SL, but not many CDs that aren't Transgender.He spend a lot of time in SL everyday. In SL,he dress just as he likes and explore the feminine side that he didn't realize I had much of.
Here are some of his quotations: I see myself as both a male and a female. I've had many years of presenting male, but realize I have many females traits not that I'm in SL
I wanted to use a male body in SL, and dress it in woman's clothes.
In SL ,lots of pretenses dropped.,like being macho and dominate attitudes, although I don't think that was a major part of my presence.
Jaiden LeShelle is a bisexual male in rl and cross dresses secretly, in second life, his avatar is a sexy female. He mentioned his experience of being seen dressed in female panty. We pretended it was a dare but I am pretty sure we both new. it was awkward for sure, but neither one of us did anything to suppress it.
As for the way of using sl, here comes some of his quotations.Just a way to act out, and share. Not to meet though probobly more with dynamics than anything though. I have rarely come across anyone close to me in a regional sense mostly just looking for new friends and keeping up to date with current ones
He sees sl life as a place more open on the issue of gender, here he can be more free to be himself instead of hiding from others’ sight. Here he can talk about his interest freely and can try all kinds of girls’ outfit as he wishes, which was difficult in rl, and as Jaiden said, it is what makes sl such a good fantasy.
Here comes the transexual individuals.
Alexis has got a male body in real life, but he does not see himself as a male but a female.When I asked Alexis this question that do you act like a girl, this individual is a little annoyyed and replyed me” I’m a girl but you say that I act like a girl.” In realife, few people know that Alexis has got a male body. She wears the outfit of feamle, and behaves in the female way.The avatar of Alexis is a beautiful female,and sl is used to meet new people,have some recreation like going to dance bars.Alexis mentioned that she is very careful in realife in order not to be found out, because in her country transgender groups are treated very badly.Although Alexis feel much more free in sl, she still mind her words, in case her identity in realife would be found out.
PiJee Spitteler is bilogically male and is bisexual.In sl,his avartar is a she-male,”a girl with a dick”.IN rl, he dresses like a boy, and sometimes he wear panties if he’s all alone at home to feel girly.
PiJee said that he is more like a girl than a boy, and his friends say so,too.When it comes to who to date, he doesn’t quite care about sex or gender.
About surgery, here’s his quotation.the first thing in mind would be to dress as a girl and look like one for a couple of times, if I like it, and if I really feel that I'm blossoming, then I might decide to have surgery.
in using sl, here comes some quotations from pijee. most of the time I wander around Domming people, mostly girls, or shemales, and other than that, I'd like to shop.
He sees sl a place much more open and free on gender. He said that well the one thing I experience her in SL is that people don't seem to care whether I'm a boy in RL or girl. They treat me as a girl. And friendships are well hard sometimes if they figure out the true gender.They would dissolve friendship pretty much.. but they're in the minority.
Here’s another quotation from PJ.I'm a boygirl remember? but I wouldn't care really, I am who I am.
Interviewee3: PiJee Spitteler
[02:14] PiJee Spitteler: anything to help :)
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: Thanks a lot!!
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: 1. Are you a transgender in real life?
[02:16] PiJee Spitteler: No, but I would love to be.
[02:16] Jessie Passerine: why are you willing to be one?
[02:17] PiJee Spitteler: because I feel more like a girl than a guy
[02:19] Jessie Passerine: ic.. so you are biologically male.
[02:19] PiJee Spitteler: yes
[02:20] Jessie Passerine: do you wish to have the sugery to become a girl?
[02:22] PiJee Spitteler: the first thing in mind would be to dress as a girl and look like one for a couple of times, if I like it, and if I really feel that I'm blossoming, then I might decide to have surgery
[02:23] Jessie Passerine: so, currently, in rl, you are dressing as a boy?
[02:24] PiJee Spitteler: yes. but sometimes I wear panties if I'm all alone at home to feel girly
[02:24] Jessie Passerine: do you feel you are different from CD ?
[02:25] PiJee Spitteler: some rl friends of mine have said to me that they actually don't see me as a boy, but really as a girl.
[02:25] PiJee Spitteler: If I tell you that I look at women to think of "if I would be her, what would I wear differently in her place?" what would you come to think of it?
[02:27] Jessie Passerine: Maybe that means you have different tastes on clothes
[02:28] PiJee Spitteler: probably but I really think like a girl too.
[02:28] PiJee Spitteler: well
[02:28] PiJee Spitteler: at least that's how I see it.
[02:30] Jessie Passerine: em... can I say that you just see yourself as a girl instead of a transexual?
[02:30] PiJee Spitteler: you can
[02:31] Jessie Passerine: ic.. well,how do you use sl?
[02:31] Jessie Passerine: what are your activities here?
[02:33] PiJee Spitteler: I'm a shemale in SL for now, I can be a girl too.
[02:33] PiJee Spitteler: most of the time I wander around Domming people, mostly girls, or shemales, and other than that, I'd like to shop.
[02:34] Jessie Passerine: what is a shemale, excuse me?
[02:34] PiJee Spitteler: girls with a dick
[02:35] Jessie Passerine: wow.. amazing...
[02:35] Jessie Passerine: are u aroused by girls or boys?
[02:35] PiJee Spitteler: idk really
[02:35] PiJee Spitteler: I've had a relationship with a boy on SL too
[02:36] PiJee Spitteler: but most of them were with girls.
[02:36] Jessie Passerine: do you see yourself as bisexuale?
[02:36] PiJee Spitteler: most likely yes
[02:38] Jessie Passerine: ic.. do you think sl can be more open and fun that rl on the issue of gender?
[02:38] PiJee Spitteler: yes
[02:38] Jessie Passerine: can you give me any other examples?
[02:38] PiJee Spitteler: of what precisely?
[02:40] Jessie Passerine: anything related to trangender...for example, frienship,love affair, and daily activity
well the one thing I experience her in SL is that people don't seem to care whether I'm a boy in RL or girl. They treat me as a girl. And friendships are well hard sometimes if they figure out the true gender...
[02:43] Jessie Passerine: what would they say or do if they figure out?
[02:44] PiJee Spitteler: dissolve friendship pretty much
[02:45] Jessie Passerine: wow... that means they still care about your gender in rl
[02:45] PiJee Spitteler: some of them do
[02:46] PiJee Spitteler: but they're in the minority
[02:46] Jessie Passerine: ic... have u met any transgender friends in sl?
[02:47] PiJee Spitteler: a couple yes
[02:48] Jessie Passerine: do you take some activities together?
[02:49] PiJee Spitteler: we talk a lot but apart from that, no other activity
[02:52] Jessie Passerine: ic... would you be afraid of being found out you are a transgender in rl?
[02:53] PiJee Spitteler: I'm a boy irl remember? but I wouldn't care really, I am who I am
[02:55] Jessie Passerine: wow~ cool~
[02:55] Jessie Passerine: XDD
[02:56] Jessie Passerine: So , have you ever go out in girls' dress?
[02:57] Jessie Passerine: in rl
[02:57] PiJee Spitteler: no, but that's my plan
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: Thanks a lot!!
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: 1. Are you a transgender in real life?
[02:16] PiJee Spitteler: No, but I would love to be.
[02:16] Jessie Passerine: why are you willing to be one?
[02:17] PiJee Spitteler: because I feel more like a girl than a guy
[02:19] Jessie Passerine: ic.. so you are biologically male.
[02:19] PiJee Spitteler: yes
[02:20] Jessie Passerine: do you wish to have the sugery to become a girl?
[02:22] PiJee Spitteler: the first thing in mind would be to dress as a girl and look like one for a couple of times, if I like it, and if I really feel that I'm blossoming, then I might decide to have surgery
[02:23] Jessie Passerine: so, currently, in rl, you are dressing as a boy?
[02:24] PiJee Spitteler: yes. but sometimes I wear panties if I'm all alone at home to feel girly
[02:24] Jessie Passerine: do you feel you are different from CD ?
[02:25] PiJee Spitteler: some rl friends of mine have said to me that they actually don't see me as a boy, but really as a girl.
[02:25] PiJee Spitteler: If I tell you that I look at women to think of "if I would be her, what would I wear differently in her place?" what would you come to think of it?
[02:27] Jessie Passerine: Maybe that means you have different tastes on clothes
[02:28] PiJee Spitteler: probably but I really think like a girl too.
[02:28] PiJee Spitteler: well
[02:28] PiJee Spitteler: at least that's how I see it.
[02:30] Jessie Passerine: em... can I say that you just see yourself as a girl instead of a transexual?
[02:30] PiJee Spitteler: you can
[02:31] Jessie Passerine: ic.. well,how do you use sl?
[02:31] Jessie Passerine: what are your activities here?
[02:33] PiJee Spitteler: I'm a shemale in SL for now, I can be a girl too.
[02:33] PiJee Spitteler: most of the time I wander around Domming people, mostly girls, or shemales, and other than that, I'd like to shop.
[02:34] Jessie Passerine: what is a shemale, excuse me?
[02:34] PiJee Spitteler: girls with a dick
[02:35] Jessie Passerine: wow.. amazing...
[02:35] Jessie Passerine: are u aroused by girls or boys?
[02:35] PiJee Spitteler: idk really
[02:35] PiJee Spitteler: I've had a relationship with a boy on SL too
[02:36] PiJee Spitteler: but most of them were with girls.
[02:36] Jessie Passerine: do you see yourself as bisexuale?
[02:36] PiJee Spitteler: most likely yes
[02:38] Jessie Passerine: ic.. do you think sl can be more open and fun that rl on the issue of gender?
[02:38] PiJee Spitteler: yes
[02:38] Jessie Passerine: can you give me any other examples?
[02:38] PiJee Spitteler: of what precisely?
[02:40] Jessie Passerine: anything related to trangender...for example, frienship,love affair, and daily activity
well the one thing I experience her in SL is that people don't seem to care whether I'm a boy in RL or girl. They treat me as a girl. And friendships are well hard sometimes if they figure out the true gender...
[02:43] Jessie Passerine: what would they say or do if they figure out?
[02:44] PiJee Spitteler: dissolve friendship pretty much
[02:45] Jessie Passerine: wow... that means they still care about your gender in rl
[02:45] PiJee Spitteler: some of them do
[02:46] PiJee Spitteler: but they're in the minority
[02:46] Jessie Passerine: ic... have u met any transgender friends in sl?
[02:47] PiJee Spitteler: a couple yes
[02:48] Jessie Passerine: do you take some activities together?
[02:49] PiJee Spitteler: we talk a lot but apart from that, no other activity
[02:52] Jessie Passerine: ic... would you be afraid of being found out you are a transgender in rl?
[02:53] PiJee Spitteler: I'm a boy irl remember? but I wouldn't care really, I am who I am
[02:55] Jessie Passerine: wow~ cool~
[02:55] Jessie Passerine: XDD
[02:56] Jessie Passerine: So , have you ever go out in girls' dress?
[02:57] Jessie Passerine: in rl
[02:57] PiJee Spitteler: no, but that's my plan
Interviewee2: Jaiden LeShelle
[01:39] Jessie Passerine: can you explicit on that, or give me some examples?
[01:40] Jaiden LeShelle: well a good example is the conversation we are having now, this would not have occured in a rl situation\
[01:42] Jessie Passerine: i got it. how do you use sl as a crossdresser?
[01:42] Jessie Passerine: do you use it to meet some other crossdressers,for instance?
[01:44] Jaiden LeShelle: just a way to act out, and share. Not to meet though probobly more with dynamics than anything though. I have rarely come across anyone close to me in a regional sense
[01:45] Jaiden LeShelle: again a good example is our conversation, from Taiwan amazing your english is better the many here in the us
[01:46] Jessie Passerine: thx.XD ... i'm an english major
[01:47] Jessie Passerine: What are your daily activities in SL?
[01:48] Jaiden LeShelle: I am not here daily per say, mostly just looking for new friends and keeping up to date with current ones
[01:50] Jessie Passerine: Ic.. what is your favorite style in girls' outfit?
[01:52] Jaiden LeShelle: depends on my mood, from music to food it is the same I don;t play favorites either I like it its good or I don;t
[01:55] Jessie Passerine: ic.. so you will try all kinds of clothes on your avatar?
[01:56] Jaiden LeShelle: yes, it is what makes sl such a good fantasy
[01:56] Jessie Passerine: XD
[01:57] Jessie Passerine: Does anyone in rl know that you cross dress?
[01:57] Jaiden LeShelle: yes
[01:57] Jessie Passerine: who would that one be?
[01:58] Jaiden LeShelle: I have had a few close friends at times. I have had my experimentations
[02:00] Jaiden LeShelle: I have even gone out on my own, to clubs and such but not openly
[02:00] Jaiden LeShelle: something I have done for myself
[02:04] Jessie Passerine: what were the results of your experimentations?
[02:04] Jaiden LeShelle: as in ?
[02:04] Jessie Passerine: rl
[02:05] Jaiden LeShelle: I a, bi sexual for sure I have had sex with men if that is what you mean
[02:06] Jessie Passerine: did you try to tell your close friend that you crossdress and are bisexual?
[02:08] Jaiden LeShelle: ahh my 1st encounter, yes was with a close friend . We pretended it was a dare but I am pretty sure we both new
[02:10] Jessie Passerine: ah... you mean that was not an intended come out?
[02:12] Jaiden LeShelle: it was awkward for sure, but neither one of us did anything to suppress it
[02:12] Jaiden LeShelle: it just kind of happend
[02:14] Jaiden LeShelle: please forgive me as the hour grows very late here
[02:14] Jaiden LeShelle: I must go, but you are free to chat with me anytime you like
[02:14] Jessie Passerine: ic.. thx very much for your time
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: It's really helpful
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: thanks very much
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: ^^
[02:16] Jaiden LeShelle: I hope thats true, you have been more than graceful I wish you the very best of luck
[01:40] Jaiden LeShelle: well a good example is the conversation we are having now, this would not have occured in a rl situation\
[01:42] Jessie Passerine: i got it. how do you use sl as a crossdresser?
[01:42] Jessie Passerine: do you use it to meet some other crossdressers,for instance?
[01:44] Jaiden LeShelle: just a way to act out, and share. Not to meet though probobly more with dynamics than anything though. I have rarely come across anyone close to me in a regional sense
[01:45] Jaiden LeShelle: again a good example is our conversation, from Taiwan amazing your english is better the many here in the us
[01:46] Jessie Passerine: thx.XD ... i'm an english major
[01:47] Jessie Passerine: What are your daily activities in SL?
[01:48] Jaiden LeShelle: I am not here daily per say, mostly just looking for new friends and keeping up to date with current ones
[01:50] Jessie Passerine: Ic.. what is your favorite style in girls' outfit?
[01:52] Jaiden LeShelle: depends on my mood, from music to food it is the same I don;t play favorites either I like it its good or I don;t
[01:55] Jessie Passerine: ic.. so you will try all kinds of clothes on your avatar?
[01:56] Jaiden LeShelle: yes, it is what makes sl such a good fantasy
[01:56] Jessie Passerine: XD
[01:57] Jessie Passerine: Does anyone in rl know that you cross dress?
[01:57] Jaiden LeShelle: yes
[01:57] Jessie Passerine: who would that one be?
[01:58] Jaiden LeShelle: I have had a few close friends at times. I have had my experimentations
[02:00] Jaiden LeShelle: I have even gone out on my own, to clubs and such but not openly
[02:00] Jaiden LeShelle: something I have done for myself
[02:04] Jessie Passerine: what were the results of your experimentations?
[02:04] Jaiden LeShelle: as in ?
[02:04] Jessie Passerine: rl
[02:05] Jaiden LeShelle: I a, bi sexual for sure I have had sex with men if that is what you mean
[02:06] Jessie Passerine: did you try to tell your close friend that you crossdress and are bisexual?
[02:08] Jaiden LeShelle: ahh my 1st encounter, yes was with a close friend . We pretended it was a dare but I am pretty sure we both new
[02:10] Jessie Passerine: ah... you mean that was not an intended come out?
[02:12] Jaiden LeShelle: it was awkward for sure, but neither one of us did anything to suppress it
[02:12] Jaiden LeShelle: it just kind of happend
[02:14] Jaiden LeShelle: please forgive me as the hour grows very late here
[02:14] Jaiden LeShelle: I must go, but you are free to chat with me anytime you like
[02:14] Jessie Passerine: ic.. thx very much for your time
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: It's really helpful
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: thanks very much
[02:15] Jessie Passerine: ^^
[02:16] Jaiden LeShelle: I hope thats true, you have been more than graceful I wish you the very best of luck
Interviewee1 Bobby
[07:49] Jessie Passerine: 1. Are you a transgender in real life?
[07:50] Bobby Blackcinder: Male, crosdresser only
[07:50] Susie223 Chun: both in real life and second life?
[07:51] Bobby Blackcinder: Rl crossdressing male, SL female
[07:51] Jessie Passerine: i got it. do you cross dress daily or just for somttimes?
[07:52] Bobby Blackcinder: partially every day as often as possib le, but not full dress hardly ever
[07:53] Bobby Blackcinder: I"m married, an unwilling participant
[07:53] Jessie Passerine: so what is the "part" you corss dress?
[07:54] Bobby Blackcinder: Underdress everyday, all lingerie
[07:54] Bobby Blackcinder: I love women's clothes
[07:55] Bobby Blackcinder: Oops, not while I'm at work
[07:55] Jessie Passerine: are you afraid of being found of wearing women's underdress?
[07:56] Bobby Blackcinder: Yes, only for the consequences beyond embarrassment
[07:57] Jessie Passerine: what would the consequece be like?
[07:57] Bobby Blackcinder: Hard to work even though they couldn't fire me
[07:59] Jessie Passerine: when you say hard to work, are you refferring to the way people would be looking at you?
[08:00] Bobby Blackcinder: yes, a lack of respect aferward
[08:00] Bobby Blackcinder: I'm a boss
[08:00] Jessie Passerine: XD haha~
[08:01] Susie223 Chun: that will be easier for you since you are not hired by someone
[08:01] Jessie Passerine: so , how will you use second life?
[08:01] Bobby Blackcinder: I'm no the top boss, but I have some employees that I'm in charge of.
[08:02] Susie223 Chun: I C
[08:02] Bobby Blackcinder: Dressing just as I like. exploring the feminine side that I didn't realize I had much of
[08:02] Bobby Blackcinder: exploring castles, dungeons, etc.
[08:02] Susie223 Chun: Do you often have fun with other people in SL?
[08:03] Jessie Passerine: other people who are into crossdressing maybe?
[08:03] Jessie Passerine: in SL
[08:04] Bobby Blackcinder: Yes I have some fun, but not many CDs that aren't Transgender.
[08:04] Bobby Blackcinder: Nnot that it matters much if they are TG or not.
[08:04] Jessie Passerine: ic.when you say exploring the feminine side, waht do you mean?
[08:05] Jessie Passerine: what activities especially?
[08:06] Bobby Blackcinder: hanging around with people and being as honest as possible.
[08:06] Bobby Blackcinder: I find out that I come across as female a lot.
[08:07] Bobby Blackcinder: I have to refer them to my profile to make sure they know I"m a RL male
[08:07] Bobby Blackcinder: I've been hit on a few times by mistake
[08:08] Jessie Passerine: so , how do you see yourself? much of a male or much of a female?
[08:09] Jessie Passerine: or both?
[08:09] Bobby Blackcinder: definitely both, I've had many years of presenting male, but realize I have many females traits not that I'm in SL
[08:10] Bobby Blackcinder: I didn't really catch on why I was different in RL
[08:11] Jessie Passerine: what are the female traits?
[08:11] Bobby Blackcinder: I love dresses by the way. ha ha
[08:12] Jessie Passerine: XD ~
[08:12] Bobby Blackcinder: personality. more submissive than I knew also
[08:13] Bobby Blackcinder: I figured out that in shopping catelogues, I was looking at the dresses more than the women
[08:13] Jessie Passerine: In real life you mean?
[08:14] Bobby Blackcinder: the sexiness of the clothing first, the sexy woman secondly. ha ha
[08:14] Jessie Passerine: haha~ I can see that ~
[08:14] Susie223 Chun: haa
[08:15] Bobby Blackcinder: I wanted to use a male body in SL, and dress it in woman's clothes, but i coulnd't alter the bodies and face good
[08:15] Jessie Passerine: just like what you want to do in RL?
[08:16] Susie223 Chun: So do you feel you are different in SL?
[08:16] Bobby Blackcinder: I made ugly people so I decided to go with a female body & face for others to look at.
[08:17] Bobby Blackcinder: Yes, and much different, lots of pretenses dropped
[08:17] Jessie Passerine: But your true desire is putting a male avatar into female clothes instead of using a female avatar
[08:18] Bobby Blackcinder: Only for honesty. I like looking at the female avatar
[08:18] Jessie Passerine: haha~
[08:18] Bobby Blackcinder: I figure I see it more than anyone else.
[08:19] Susie223 Chun: You mentioned that lots of pretense dropped just now
[08:19] Susie223 Chun: what kind of pretense?
[08:20] Bobby Blackcinder: being macho, dominate attitudes, although I don't think that was a major part of my presence
[08:20] Bobby Blackcinder: I couldn't help but pick some of it up over the years, so I assume that I do it.
[08:21] Bobby Blackcinder: act macho that is.
[08:21] Bobby Blackcinder: I actually find being with a bunch of macho males in SL is very uncomfortable, unpleasant
[08:21] Susie223 Chun: and you want to be honest at the same time
[08:21] Bobby Blackcinder: specially when they are hitting on the 'women'
[08:22] Jessie Passerine: will you be aroused by male body?
[08:22] Bobby Blackcinder: I don't know if I've met a lot of gay guys, cause I don't ask, but I hear they don't have that attitude often
[08:23] Bobby Blackcinder: Not at all, more repulsed than anything. I don't find them attractinve at all
[08:23] Susie223 Chun: Did you have any embarrasment with those males?
[08:24] Bobby Blackcinder: I find them funny in SL, usualy so very large and muscular, un likely in RL
[08:24] Susie223 Chun: haha
[08:24] Bobby Blackcinder: RL or SL?
[08:24] Susie223 Chun: exactly
[08:25] Jessie Passerine: both i suppose?
[08:26] Susie223 Chun: Do you think it's easier for you in SL than in RL？
[08:26] Bobby Blackcinder: Not really, they are just other guys in RL, somewhat ridiculous in SL
[08:26] Bobby Blackcinder: SL by a long shot. CD isn't even notable
[08:28] Jessie Passerine: why are they ridiculous in SL?
[08:28] Bobby Blackcinder: Did I understand that you two are students?
[08:28] Susie223 Chun: yes
[08:28] Jessie Passerine: Yes , and we are doing a research on transgender
[08:29] Bobby Blackcinder: Am I part of a thesis now? oh, you answered before I asked
[08:29] Susie223 Chun: haha
[08:29] Bobby Blackcinder: Is research in SL allowable, recognizable by professors?
[08:29] Jessie Passerine: yes, as it is asked
[08:29] Susie223 Chun: Yes,she led us to SL actually
[08:30] Bobby Blackcinder: Hi Carman
[08:30] Carmen Isodo: hi
[08:31] Bobby Blackcinder: busy today?
[08:31] Bobby Blackcinder: Carman?
[08:31] Carmen Isodo: oh, no
[08:31] Carmen Isodo: i guess not
[08:31] Bobby Blackcinder: excuse me, CarmEn.
[08:32] Bobby Blackcinder: I get called Booby a lot for typing reasons. ha ha
[08:32] Susie223 Chun: Yuor friend
[08:32] Bobby Blackcinder: Not yet.
[08:32] Susie223 Chun: Your,I mean
[08:32] Bobby Blackcinder: I just greet everyone I meet, you never know until you talk to people.
[08:33] Susie223 Chun: that's true
[08:33] Jessie Passerine: good point
[08:33] Bobby Blackcinder: I seemed to have scared him off. and I didn't even tell him about your questions. ha ha
[08:33] Susie223 Chun: Oops
[08:33] Bobby Blackcinder: You can't tell what they are here, much less who.
[08:34] Jessie Passerine: so how much time do you spend in SL daily?
[08:35] Bobby Blackcinder: quite a lot actually, but very sporatic, i'm off an on continually.
[08:35] Bobby Blackcinder: this has been a long time in one stay for me.
[08:36] Bobby Blackcinder: but speakng of that, I have to take a bathroom brak.
[08:36] Bobby Blackcinder: That makes it hard to find a job in SL, I'm totally unreliable.
[08:36] Jessie Passerine: have you ever counted how many hours you spent daily in SL on average?
[08:36] Jessie Passerine: XD
[08:37] Bobby Blackcinder: No, I stop when I'm bored or tired, or more frequenlty, when I have things to do in RL
[08:38] Bobby Blackcinder: Well, I hope I helped you.
[08:38] Susie223 Chun: thanks~
[08:38] Bobby Blackcinder: by the way what are your preferences in RL and SL, you and Susie?
[08:38] Bobby Blackcinder: sexually, since you're studing TGs
[08:39] Susie223 Chun: female,haha
[08:39] Bobby Blackcinder: everything?
[08:39] Jessie Passerine: haha~ i'm trying all kind of styles in SL
[08:40] Bobby Blackcinder: female body, male partners wanted?
[08:40] Susie223 Chun: not on everything
[08:40] Bobby Blackcinder: Well I'm up for lesbianism if you are. ℓøℓ
[08:41] Susie223 Chun: I like girl's clothes
[08:41] Jessie Passerine: really? I'm studying feminism recently
[08:41] Bobby Blackcinder: Just their clothes Susie?
[08:41] Susie223 Chun: btu I want t work like a man,haha
[08:42] Bobby Blackcinder: This is the place to explore what you may have never thought of before, little consequences.
[08:42] Bobby Blackcinder: You are both females in RL right?
[08:42] Susie223 Chun: I adore girl's make-up,too,haha
[08:42] Susie223 Chun: yes
[08:42] Jessie Passerine: that's right
[08:43] Bobby Blackcinder: I haven't gotten into makeup yet in RL, but I'm anticipating it a lot
[08:43] Bobby Blackcinder: Not the learning part of it though, I don't have much confidence that I will be able to do it.
[08:43] Susie223 Chun: It'sworth trying,haha
[08:44] Bobby Blackcinder: being married, I don't have much of a chance to try it. she woulnd't approve
[08:44] Bobby Blackcinder: she's just trying to get used to my dressing.
[08:45] Bobby Blackcinder: I alway hid it well.
[08:45] Jessie Passerine: did she know that before you are married?
[08:45] Susie223 Chun: Oops,that's a pity
[08:45] Bobby Blackcinder: now I'm testing her reactions,
[08:45] Bobby Blackcinder: No she didn't , I dressed long before I met here, purged a few times since
[08:46] Bobby Blackcinder: it was nip and tuck as to whether i would stay or not
[08:47] Bobby Blackcinder: I couldn't burst out and tell her, and I couldn't stop dressing either.
[08:47] Bobby Blackcinder: I was admittingly lyiing to her, but I coulnd't see a way to stop, w/o the risk of leaving also
[08:48] Susie223 Chun: Is she against this?
[08:48] Bobby Blackcinder: completely. I'm sure she wishes it would go away every day, especially when she see's what I'm wearing
[08:49] Jessie Passerine: I've got a friend who is also interested in girls outfit.he said he would urge his girlfriedn to wear what he is most into
[08:50] Bobby Blackcinder: nothing odd about that, all guys would like to have their women dress as they would like to see them
[08:50] Bobby Blackcinder: obviously sexy or even slutty
[08:50] Jessie Passerine: and once he wore a girl's skirt and showed up in a party
[08:50] Jessie Passerine: everyone was shocked
[08:51] Bobby Blackcinder: he's looking to break out, or just showing off his daring.
[08:51] Bobby Blackcinder: or both
[08:51] Susie223 Chun: my friend is different
[08:51] Bobby Blackcinder: that would still take guts either way.
[08:51] Susie223 Chun: He just tell his preference to some of his fiends,including me
[08:52] Susie223 Chun: But he would never tell his parents
[08:52] Bobby Blackcinder: less so if he was just showing off how gutsy he could be.
[08:52] Bobby Blackcinder: Oh, he admitted to liking to wear them? I didn't understand that.
[08:53] Susie223 Chun: He likes girl's clothes, but he just told a few friends about this hobby
[08:54] Bobby Blackcinder: Good luck to him finding out how far he wants to go with it.
[08:54] Susie223 Chun: but he thought that his parents were too traditional to accept this
[08:55] Susie223 Chun: and he won't show up as a girl in public
[08:55] Bobby Blackcinder: He has to please himself over everyone else, or he'll regret it more than embarrassment
[08:56] Bobby Blackcinder: it's a tough line to walk.
[07:50] Bobby Blackcinder: Male, crosdresser only
[07:50] Susie223 Chun: both in real life and second life?
[07:51] Bobby Blackcinder: Rl crossdressing male, SL female
[07:51] Jessie Passerine: i got it. do you cross dress daily or just for somttimes?
[07:52] Bobby Blackcinder: partially every day as often as possib le, but not full dress hardly ever
[07:53] Bobby Blackcinder: I"m married, an unwilling participant
[07:53] Jessie Passerine: so what is the "part" you corss dress?
[07:54] Bobby Blackcinder: Underdress everyday, all lingerie
[07:54] Bobby Blackcinder: I love women's clothes
[07:55] Bobby Blackcinder: Oops, not while I'm at work
[07:55] Jessie Passerine: are you afraid of being found of wearing women's underdress?
[07:56] Bobby Blackcinder: Yes, only for the consequences beyond embarrassment
[07:57] Jessie Passerine: what would the consequece be like?
[07:57] Bobby Blackcinder: Hard to work even though they couldn't fire me
[07:59] Jessie Passerine: when you say hard to work, are you refferring to the way people would be looking at you?
[08:00] Bobby Blackcinder: yes, a lack of respect aferward
[08:00] Bobby Blackcinder: I'm a boss
[08:00] Jessie Passerine: XD haha~
[08:01] Susie223 Chun: that will be easier for you since you are not hired by someone
[08:01] Jessie Passerine: so , how will you use second life?
[08:01] Bobby Blackcinder: I'm no the top boss, but I have some employees that I'm in charge of.
[08:02] Susie223 Chun: I C
[08:02] Bobby Blackcinder: Dressing just as I like. exploring the feminine side that I didn't realize I had much of
[08:02] Bobby Blackcinder: exploring castles, dungeons, etc.
[08:02] Susie223 Chun: Do you often have fun with other people in SL?
[08:03] Jessie Passerine: other people who are into crossdressing maybe?
[08:03] Jessie Passerine: in SL
[08:04] Bobby Blackcinder: Yes I have some fun, but not many CDs that aren't Transgender.
[08:04] Bobby Blackcinder: Nnot that it matters much if they are TG or not.
[08:04] Jessie Passerine: ic.when you say exploring the feminine side, waht do you mean?
[08:05] Jessie Passerine: what activities especially?
[08:06] Bobby Blackcinder: hanging around with people and being as honest as possible.
[08:06] Bobby Blackcinder: I find out that I come across as female a lot.
[08:07] Bobby Blackcinder: I have to refer them to my profile to make sure they know I"m a RL male
[08:07] Bobby Blackcinder: I've been hit on a few times by mistake
[08:08] Jessie Passerine: so , how do you see yourself? much of a male or much of a female?
[08:09] Jessie Passerine: or both?
[08:09] Bobby Blackcinder: definitely both, I've had many years of presenting male, but realize I have many females traits not that I'm in SL
[08:10] Bobby Blackcinder: I didn't really catch on why I was different in RL
[08:11] Jessie Passerine: what are the female traits?
[08:11] Bobby Blackcinder: I love dresses by the way. ha ha
[08:12] Jessie Passerine: XD ~
[08:12] Bobby Blackcinder: personality. more submissive than I knew also
[08:13] Bobby Blackcinder: I figured out that in shopping catelogues, I was looking at the dresses more than the women
[08:13] Jessie Passerine: In real life you mean?
[08:14] Bobby Blackcinder: the sexiness of the clothing first, the sexy woman secondly. ha ha
[08:14] Jessie Passerine: haha~ I can see that ~
[08:14] Susie223 Chun: haa
[08:15] Bobby Blackcinder: I wanted to use a male body in SL, and dress it in woman's clothes, but i coulnd't alter the bodies and face good
[08:15] Jessie Passerine: just like what you want to do in RL?
[08:16] Susie223 Chun: So do you feel you are different in SL?
[08:16] Bobby Blackcinder: I made ugly people so I decided to go with a female body & face for others to look at.
[08:17] Bobby Blackcinder: Yes, and much different, lots of pretenses dropped
[08:17] Jessie Passerine: But your true desire is putting a male avatar into female clothes instead of using a female avatar
[08:18] Bobby Blackcinder: Only for honesty. I like looking at the female avatar
[08:18] Jessie Passerine: haha~
[08:18] Bobby Blackcinder: I figure I see it more than anyone else.
[08:19] Susie223 Chun: You mentioned that lots of pretense dropped just now
[08:19] Susie223 Chun: what kind of pretense?
[08:20] Bobby Blackcinder: being macho, dominate attitudes, although I don't think that was a major part of my presence
[08:20] Bobby Blackcinder: I couldn't help but pick some of it up over the years, so I assume that I do it.
[08:21] Bobby Blackcinder: act macho that is.
[08:21] Bobby Blackcinder: I actually find being with a bunch of macho males in SL is very uncomfortable, unpleasant
[08:21] Susie223 Chun: and you want to be honest at the same time
[08:21] Bobby Blackcinder: specially when they are hitting on the 'women'
[08:22] Jessie Passerine: will you be aroused by male body?
[08:22] Bobby Blackcinder: I don't know if I've met a lot of gay guys, cause I don't ask, but I hear they don't have that attitude often
[08:23] Bobby Blackcinder: Not at all, more repulsed than anything. I don't find them attractinve at all
[08:23] Susie223 Chun: Did you have any embarrasment with those males?
[08:24] Bobby Blackcinder: I find them funny in SL, usualy so very large and muscular, un likely in RL
[08:24] Susie223 Chun: haha
[08:24] Bobby Blackcinder: RL or SL?
[08:24] Susie223 Chun: exactly
[08:25] Jessie Passerine: both i suppose?
[08:26] Susie223 Chun: Do you think it's easier for you in SL than in RL？
[08:26] Bobby Blackcinder: Not really, they are just other guys in RL, somewhat ridiculous in SL
[08:26] Bobby Blackcinder: SL by a long shot. CD isn't even notable
[08:28] Jessie Passerine: why are they ridiculous in SL?
[08:28] Bobby Blackcinder: Did I understand that you two are students?
[08:28] Susie223 Chun: yes
[08:28] Jessie Passerine: Yes , and we are doing a research on transgender
[08:29] Bobby Blackcinder: Am I part of a thesis now? oh, you answered before I asked
[08:29] Susie223 Chun: haha
[08:29] Bobby Blackcinder: Is research in SL allowable, recognizable by professors?
[08:29] Jessie Passerine: yes, as it is asked
[08:29] Susie223 Chun: Yes,she led us to SL actually
[08:30] Bobby Blackcinder: Hi Carman
[08:30] Carmen Isodo: hi
[08:31] Bobby Blackcinder: busy today?
[08:31] Bobby Blackcinder: Carman?
[08:31] Carmen Isodo: oh, no
[08:31] Carmen Isodo: i guess not
[08:31] Bobby Blackcinder: excuse me, CarmEn.
[08:32] Bobby Blackcinder: I get called Booby a lot for typing reasons. ha ha
[08:32] Susie223 Chun: Yuor friend
[08:32] Bobby Blackcinder: Not yet.
[08:32] Susie223 Chun: Your,I mean
[08:32] Bobby Blackcinder: I just greet everyone I meet, you never know until you talk to people.
[08:33] Susie223 Chun: that's true
[08:33] Jessie Passerine: good point
[08:33] Bobby Blackcinder: I seemed to have scared him off. and I didn't even tell him about your questions. ha ha
[08:33] Susie223 Chun: Oops
[08:33] Bobby Blackcinder: You can't tell what they are here, much less who.
[08:34] Jessie Passerine: so how much time do you spend in SL daily?
[08:35] Bobby Blackcinder: quite a lot actually, but very sporatic, i'm off an on continually.
[08:35] Bobby Blackcinder: this has been a long time in one stay for me.
[08:36] Bobby Blackcinder: but speakng of that, I have to take a bathroom brak.
[08:36] Bobby Blackcinder: That makes it hard to find a job in SL, I'm totally unreliable.
[08:36] Jessie Passerine: have you ever counted how many hours you spent daily in SL on average?
[08:36] Jessie Passerine: XD
[08:37] Bobby Blackcinder: No, I stop when I'm bored or tired, or more frequenlty, when I have things to do in RL
[08:38] Bobby Blackcinder: Well, I hope I helped you.
[08:38] Susie223 Chun: thanks~
[08:38] Bobby Blackcinder: by the way what are your preferences in RL and SL, you and Susie?
[08:38] Bobby Blackcinder: sexually, since you're studing TGs
[08:39] Susie223 Chun: female,haha
[08:39] Bobby Blackcinder: everything?
[08:39] Jessie Passerine: haha~ i'm trying all kind of styles in SL
[08:40] Bobby Blackcinder: female body, male partners wanted?
[08:40] Susie223 Chun: not on everything
[08:40] Bobby Blackcinder: Well I'm up for lesbianism if you are. ℓøℓ
[08:41] Susie223 Chun: I like girl's clothes
[08:41] Jessie Passerine: really? I'm studying feminism recently
[08:41] Bobby Blackcinder: Just their clothes Susie?
[08:41] Susie223 Chun: btu I want t work like a man,haha
[08:42] Bobby Blackcinder: This is the place to explore what you may have never thought of before, little consequences.
[08:42] Bobby Blackcinder: You are both females in RL right?
[08:42] Susie223 Chun: I adore girl's make-up,too,haha
[08:42] Susie223 Chun: yes
[08:42] Jessie Passerine: that's right
[08:43] Bobby Blackcinder: I haven't gotten into makeup yet in RL, but I'm anticipating it a lot
[08:43] Bobby Blackcinder: Not the learning part of it though, I don't have much confidence that I will be able to do it.
[08:43] Susie223 Chun: It'sworth trying,haha
[08:44] Bobby Blackcinder: being married, I don't have much of a chance to try it. she woulnd't approve
[08:44] Bobby Blackcinder: she's just trying to get used to my dressing.
[08:45] Bobby Blackcinder: I alway hid it well.
[08:45] Jessie Passerine: did she know that before you are married?
[08:45] Susie223 Chun: Oops,that's a pity
[08:45] Bobby Blackcinder: now I'm testing her reactions,
[08:45] Bobby Blackcinder: No she didn't , I dressed long before I met here, purged a few times since
[08:46] Bobby Blackcinder: it was nip and tuck as to whether i would stay or not
[08:47] Bobby Blackcinder: I couldn't burst out and tell her, and I couldn't stop dressing either.
[08:47] Bobby Blackcinder: I was admittingly lyiing to her, but I coulnd't see a way to stop, w/o the risk of leaving also
[08:48] Susie223 Chun: Is she against this?
[08:48] Bobby Blackcinder: completely. I'm sure she wishes it would go away every day, especially when she see's what I'm wearing
[08:49] Jessie Passerine: I've got a friend who is also interested in girls outfit.he said he would urge his girlfriedn to wear what he is most into
[08:50] Bobby Blackcinder: nothing odd about that, all guys would like to have their women dress as they would like to see them
[08:50] Bobby Blackcinder: obviously sexy or even slutty
[08:50] Jessie Passerine: and once he wore a girl's skirt and showed up in a party
[08:50] Jessie Passerine: everyone was shocked
[08:51] Bobby Blackcinder: he's looking to break out, or just showing off his daring.
[08:51] Bobby Blackcinder: or both
[08:51] Susie223 Chun: my friend is different
[08:51] Bobby Blackcinder: that would still take guts either way.
[08:51] Susie223 Chun: He just tell his preference to some of his fiends,including me
[08:52] Susie223 Chun: But he would never tell his parents
[08:52] Bobby Blackcinder: less so if he was just showing off how gutsy he could be.
[08:52] Bobby Blackcinder: Oh, he admitted to liking to wear them? I didn't understand that.
[08:53] Susie223 Chun: He likes girl's clothes, but he just told a few friends about this hobby
[08:54] Bobby Blackcinder: Good luck to him finding out how far he wants to go with it.
[08:54] Susie223 Chun: but he thought that his parents were too traditional to accept this
[08:55] Susie223 Chun: and he won't show up as a girl in public
[08:55] Bobby Blackcinder: He has to please himself over everyone else, or he'll regret it more than embarrassment
[08:56] Bobby Blackcinder: it's a tough line to walk.
progress report 2- role playing and interviews
This week, after the role playing, we found that some of the questions are a little bit too big and went on seperate interviews to say what questions shall be asked. During the interview, not only the questions are formed , but also information was found.
Role plays conducted to see if the research questions can work out
Two groups: A. Susie and Sonny
B. Jessie and Ruby
After the role plays, we found that there are many problems about our questions, so we revise it into the following edition.
INTERVIEW course:
Places: transgender clubs
Step 1: self-introduction & small talk to get familiar with the interviewee
Step 2: ask for basic information about the interviewee
Step 3: bringing up our topic
Subtopic a: comparison of transgender culture in SL & RL
1. What do you think about the present transgender situations in RL?
2. What do you think about the present transgender situations in SL?
3. What are your daily activities in SL?
4. Apart from the activities here, do you take part in other activities with people who are not transgender?
Subtopic b: in what aspects does SL prepare transgender for better living in RL?
Subtopic c: existing problems
1. Have you ever encountered any kind of embarrassment because of who you are now?
2. What’s your reaction towards those embarrassments?
Here comes my little summerize on this week's work.
In reality, TG groups are usually confronted with misunderstanding and contempt. From the interviewees’ words, we can see that they are all usually under great pressure and hiding their identity and interest. While second life provided a virtual world where nobody knows your real identity, TG groups can enjoy a lot of different activities according to their interests. Although second life is a safer place to talk about and realize one’s own interests, TG groups are still very careful with their words and interaction with other people, in case their identity in real life would be found out or something else.
Bobby: I’m a crossdressing male in RL, a female in SL. I"m married, an unwilling participant. I love women's clothes, and wear women’s underdress everyday.I’m afraid of being found of wearing women's underdress, because it would be hard to work.They can’t fire me. I’m a boss. I have some fun with other people in SL, but not many CDs that aren't Transgender.I spend a lot of time in SL everyday. In SL,I dress just as I like and explore the feminine side that I didn't realize I had much of. In SL ,lots of pretenses dropped.I don't desire male body, and they can’t arouse me.
Role plays conducted to see if the research questions can work out
Two groups: A. Susie and Sonny
B. Jessie and Ruby
After the role plays, we found that there are many problems about our questions, so we revise it into the following edition.
INTERVIEW course:
Places: transgender clubs
Step 1: self-introduction & small talk to get familiar with the interviewee
Step 2: ask for basic information about the interviewee
Step 3: bringing up our topic
Subtopic a: comparison of transgender culture in SL & RL
1. What do you think about the present transgender situations in RL?
2. What do you think about the present transgender situations in SL?
3. What are your daily activities in SL?
4. Apart from the activities here, do you take part in other activities with people who are not transgender?
Subtopic b: in what aspects does SL prepare transgender for better living in RL?
Subtopic c: existing problems
1. Have you ever encountered any kind of embarrassment because of who you are now?
2. What’s your reaction towards those embarrassments?
Here comes my little summerize on this week's work.
In reality, TG groups are usually confronted with misunderstanding and contempt. From the interviewees’ words, we can see that they are all usually under great pressure and hiding their identity and interest. While second life provided a virtual world where nobody knows your real identity, TG groups can enjoy a lot of different activities according to their interests. Although second life is a safer place to talk about and realize one’s own interests, TG groups are still very careful with their words and interaction with other people, in case their identity in real life would be found out or something else.
Bobby: I’m a crossdressing male in RL, a female in SL. I"m married, an unwilling participant. I love women's clothes, and wear women’s underdress everyday.I’m afraid of being found of wearing women's underdress, because it would be hard to work.They can’t fire me. I’m a boss. I have some fun with other people in SL, but not many CDs that aren't Transgender.I spend a lot of time in SL everyday. In SL,I dress just as I like and explore the feminine side that I didn't realize I had much of. In SL ,lots of pretenses dropped.I don't desire male body, and they can’t arouse me.
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